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If i have to play decks that have a good MU only vs eldrazi but not vs the rest of the field, gauah! J have played against UR eldrazi last night in the final game with my affinity. The eldrazis can be overcome. The thing is how do you board against them.
While damnation is strong and such, they are top slow. You need pyroclasm. Eldrazi mimic, matter reshape, the scion and some if their eldrazi have toughness 2 and below.
Mimic and thought-knot seer cam be stop by torpor orb. Linear decks will overrun you. You can complain all you want, but the fact is if you are slow, you need sweeper. My friend who pilot the UR eldrazi deck admit that it is broken, his deck run like affinity in a warp sense. In his opinion, banning the land will cause a few deck to not be able to function. The other variant if eldrazis are actually fair enough with their huge cost, therefore if we ban eldrazi mimic, endless one, we will slow the deck down and yet allow other form of eldrazi deck to exist which are more midrange.
However banning the land, we still have the problem that they could runaway with the game by finding alternate fast mana. Also the repercussion it could have on other deck. As we want diversity, banning the land will not solve the problem.
Those land are quite just eldrazi aligned and other decks can benefit from it. Rather the cheap creature could be removed and we have a fair and diversified eldrazi deck in modern format. So you really think 1x of a sweeper against a deck that topdecks better than BGx is an answer? Your brash and arrogant tone is truly repulsive — furthermore it adds nothing to the conversation of a plausible answer to Eldrazi.
It will be a very good day when several decks check Eldrazi over the next few GPs and all of these ridiculous commenters are forced to eat their words. Get over it is correct. Play Damnation is also correct. Stop looking for easy solutions that require no thought. In short, the naysayers are only proving how lazy they actually are. Abzan company sporting Big Game Hunter and Mono White Prison are only two decks that have seen strong data and showings against Eldrazi.
There will be more. Chris — your comments are enlightening. So I should just pack some sweepers and call it a day — sweet — GP detriot here I come! Maybe some extra doom blades will get me there — all eldrazi creatures die to doom blade — lets theory craft away! Has it occurred to you that ppl might have done testing with obvious answer like this? Eat my words — the only one eating there words will be those that are foolish enough to show up to the next GP with non-eldrazi deck.
Mono-white prison — are you kidding me? Sounds super solid against the field — eldrazi players need to check themselves — im def not playing eldrazi now.. My comment is build. Not look for magic one shot answers. MWP puts up solid results in testing against the field. And cantrips. Is it eldrazi? Can it stop the deck? Does it have equivalent power? Has anyone thought to try it in a shell that can support it before now?
So my point stands. The card pool is deep. There is unexplored deck design space, and it will take actual willigness to build new decks rather than look for easy answers to find the solutions. The eldrazi may very well be better than what the current decks are configured to beat. The problem with every analysis that cries about the dominance of eldrazi is that those players utterly lack the capability to start over from ground zero.
In an open system like this with thousands upon thousands of independent agents, the collective intelligence of the group as a whole is huge. Powerful things gain traction and spread very quickly, and many, many people are trying to find them, and have been with all of the available cards for years.
Realistically, there three angles, in which the total possible archetypes have been explored to varying degrees, with varying room for innovation likely available. Not likely, and this is the area with the least room for innovation. Control — a bit more room for moderate innovation here see the new Mardu archetype, for example, or Lantern control which just came to be last year.
There are lots of creative ways to try to lock out your opponent, but you do have to be able to survive the initial onslaught. Combo — also have to survive the early turns, maybe have some room for innovation in this space as well, as multi-piece combos can be tough to spot see Grishoalbrand, and the several-year incubation of the completely busted Amulet Bloom.
And grow bigger in the lategame as well. This seems very poor vs the Eldrazi. Thank you for your thoughtful reply, and I apologize to you for the acid in my prior post. I see your point, and I understand your reasoning, but I do still strongly disagree with your position. We have several GPs coming up.
I think those tournaments will confirm or dispel the question of Eldrazi Winter. I swear modern nexus has really dropped the ball on this eldrazi thing. Ya that sounds like a real healthy metagame. Meanwhile, same people will just run the deck because it is painfully obvious there is nothing better to play in modern…if you want to win that is.
Pretty much this. Only Sheridan writes with any humility in his statements. Guess what, everyone writing here and reading here are just FNM scrubs. Nothing needs to be banned they said. I lost because of a Thragtusk tonight. Wurmcoil Engine scares me. How about you and Trevor get together and make a video series whereby you actually put your stupid ass bullshit theories to the test instead of just jerking off on a website. Bile Blight is good in any deck using against multiple copies of creatures, trust me….
Surgical Extraction is amazing. Obstinate Baloth and Loxodon Smiter is played in an environment with Liliana of the Veil and similar cards anyway.
Sweepers have always been good, especially in an aggro heavy environment. Loxodon Smiters and Obstinate Baloths have been used often enough before. Kitchen Finks ends up in many decks running green or white anyways… Hushwing Gryff is no stranger in an environment with CiP abilities.
And the nastiest Eldrazi are all CiP abilities. Mimic, Thought Knot, and much much more…. Against the bigger threats with the when cast are late game threats most of the time. Especially with Path to Exiles…. And just like Elves, RDW, etc… They pack very little in the way of cantrips and have a very bad mid to late game. Just like against any all in strategy Eldrazi will just lose in a situation where their early creatures are removed and no follow up is possible.
But one sweeper my elf deck is pretty much dead in the water. Same goes for Eldrazi. Bile Blight is good against both decks. Bile Blight is good against Affinity. Bile Blight is good against creatures period as it even kills Wild Nacatl..
They have always been there. And they will always be there. Sadly, Chalice for 1 bricks most decks… Engineered Explosives for 0, Remand, Ancient Grudge, and many other cards will buy you time to get around that too.
You win, they lose. Last month people were screaming and crying over Twin and Summer Bloom being banned, but they were quick to hit that ban Eye and all these other cards because we are too lazy to do something about it ourselves hurdy hur hur… All this will accomplish is make the modern environment so volatile that people will quit. Aggro and Combo has always done really dumb things. Control can beat both decks… Eldrazi is worse than Twin and Bloom, as it depents on creatures attacking to win.
And yet again I point at sweepers to neuter these decks. One way I have Linvalla, the other I hae Thoughtsieze. All cards are Near Mint NM unless stated otherwise in the title..
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